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#81
(07-20-2015, 06:39 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote:
(07-20-2015, 06:08 AM)SickBeast Wrote: Rollo what you have always failed at understanding is that the way we do things in Canada is both cheaper and better.  You just said that you're planning to drop $100,000 on your son's education.  Here tuition is about $5000 at excellent schools, the best ones we have.  In Quebec it's about $2500.  Our universal healthcare costs much less overall compared to the way things are done in the US, plus we all have coverage.

I'm done arguing with you about this, you just don't get it and I don't think you ever will.

Let's please stick to computer hardware.
Are you sure you still want that health care? http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_ca...hcare.html

And now for something completely different. Let's get back to computer hardware.
That's from 2007. Our health care system here is amazing.
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#82
(07-20-2015, 06:40 AM)SickBeast Wrote: That's from 2007. Our health care system here is amazing.
Something tells me it hasn't changed.
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#83
(07-20-2015, 06:40 AM)SickBeast Wrote: That's from 2007. Our health care system here is amazing.

No, it's actually crap.

http://pnhp.org/blog/2014/03/17/42000-ca...re-really/

Quote:An enormous number jump the queue for care in their native land and travel to the United States to receive medical attention. In 2012, over 42,000 Canadians crossed the border to get treated.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report...e-in-2011/

Quote:A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the north have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/medical-wa...-1.2663013

Quote:Medical wait times up to 3 times longer in Canada

Canadian health care:



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#84
You guys don't get it. You don't live here. You have no clue.
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#85
(07-20-2015, 12:17 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: At least in my case my widow will have worked her whole life, and been more successful than a lot of men.

Yes Apoppin does the gaming community (and hardware companies) a solid by slaving away on his benchmarks, but if either values it, they should be the ones to buy Apoppin's HMO. To most of the people paying for Apoppin's HMO, his benchmarks are probably even less meaningful than the guy who chooses to wash the park rocks with a toothbrush. The vast majority of people just don't care about benchmarks.

You can find pretty smoothed stones known as "agates" on the shore of Lake Superior, which can in turn be sold. If I quit my job today, start spending my days picking up shiny rocks and selling them, should society be forced to buy my HMO? Where is the justice in that?

And it's ok for your supposed "widow" to do nothing, and still get an extra $2000/mo from the government, while buying brand new Cadillacs every few years? 

Poppin is a shining example of the community $$ put to good use.  He didn't just smoke crack with the $$.  He actually ponied up for a Fury X and then went to work on it.  At his age, he should be living like a retired person, but he's still an industrious bee.  There was something about him taking care of his Mom for years instead of sending her off to hospice, saving the government $80K per year that way.  Why not ever mention this?  Most people would rather not be burdened with taking care of their aging parents, and just let them rot away in nursing homes, while costing so much of our tax dollars.  Only a few nurses get paid for the work, along with a few filthy rich owners and doctors getting the major chunk. 

Then it's the healthcare that is a much bigger problem with education. 

Obamacare actually forces the government to seriously reconsider re-educating the American people to live a healther lifestyle, eat more healthy - especially avoid eating junk and drinking 3 coffee cups, 3 cans of coke each day.  The companies have been bribing the government all this time, with little reason to really care for the American population (with just medicare that probably pressured the gov't to come down hard on tobacco in the 80's and 90's).  Cases of diabetes kept on rising exponentially since the 70's - especially with small children whereas before it was completely unheard of for a kid to get diabetes in the 50's..  Obesity was rather rare in the 70's, and now it's an American icon.  As long as the health care and pharmaceutical industry kept on raking in billions and billions more each year, the government was ok with that as long as the industry was in bed with the government. 

Now, Obamacare actually puts more pressure on the government to take responsibility for the American citizen, if America is actually a democracy at all.  Stop letting businesses (McDonalds, Nabisco, etc.) put themselves before the health of the population as a whole, no matter how much it hurts the medical industry (hospitals, etc.).  Sure, the doctors won't be getting paid as much, and the hospital revenue will go down, but isn't it cruel to put that before the health of the American citizen? 

We need to get to the root of the problem.  Stop separating business and the population too much.  Start taking responsibility for the core of the democracy, which is the American demographic no matter the income class, status, race, etc.  The lower median income class isn't just a number to be exploited for private businesses - like the billions of Chinese and Indian factory workers without concern for their health. 

Obamacare means that the government has to shift their attention back to the American demographic as a whole, away from solely financial standpoint of the upscale flow of the private economy.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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#86
We need to get back to the government governing in the name of the people, the citizenship who actually voted them into power, not governing for corporations and business entities who are not human, not citizens and don't vote!
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(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: And it's ok for your supposed "widow" to do nothing, and still get an extra $2000/mo from the government, while buying brand new Cadillacs every few years? 
Yes. She will have put more into Social Security than most people over the course of her life, it's more than fair she gets to use it when she retires. If your position is that "Successful people who have saved for their retirement and paid more into SS should not be able to benefit from it because they need it less" we'll have to agree to disagree. This whole concept of "people should all be equal" is bullshit. I met my wife at work, where she was working full time and finishing her accounting degree nights and weekends, paying for it herself, no student loans. Since then she's worked full time every week for the last 20+ years. When I've asked her if she wants to cut back or just retire she says she plans on working until her full retirement age of 67 even if we don't need the money. If the country was made up of people like my wife, we would live in a paradise. If the country was made up of Apoppins, we would live in Ethiopia, everyone starving. There is a BIG difference in being a "giver" and a "taker" in the society you live in.


(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: Poppin is a shining example of the community $$ put to good use.  He didn't just smoke crack with the $$. 
So what? Most people don't smoke crack and that doesn't mean they should be given money other people earned.

(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: He actually ponied up for a Fury X and then went to work on it.  At his age, he should be living like a retired person, but he's still an industrious bee.
The money he spent on luxuries like a Fury X should have been deducted from his Obamacare.
If I quit my job this morning and say, "My job is now reviewing sports cars! I'm going to go buy a Corvette and spend the next month driving it and writing about it so people will know about Corvettes!" society should buy my healthcare? Yeah, right.


(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote:   There was something about him taking care of his Mom for years instead of sending her off to hospice, saving the government $80K per year that way.  Why not ever mention this? 
I've mentioned it many times, including in this thread. On this we agree, I don't have much problem with care givers for the disabled getting Medicaid.

(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: Obamacare actually forces the government to seriously reconsider re-educating the American people to live a healther lifestyle, eat more healthy - especially avoid eating junk and drinking 3 coffee cups, 3 cans of coke each day.  The companies have been bribing the government all this time, with little reason to really care for the American population (with just medicare that probably pressured the gov't to come down hard on tobacco in the 80's and 90's).  Cases of diabetes kept on rising exponentially since the 70's - especially with small children whereas before it was completely unheard of for a kid to get diabetes in the 50's..  Obesity was rather rare in the 70's, and now it's an American icon.  As long as the health care and pharmaceutical industry kept on raking in billions and billions more each year, the government was ok with that as long as the industry was in bed with the government. 

You want the government telling you what you can eat/drink? LOL- enjoy your life on the government prescribed diet, doing the government prescribed amount of exercise daily, avoiding the risks the government says are unacceptable. Will be great when the police show up because you ordered a Danish for breakfast.

(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: Now, Obamacare actually puts more pressure on the government to take responsibility for the American citizen, if America is actually a democracy at all.  Stop letting businesses (McDonalds, Nabisco, etc.) put themselves before the health of the population as a whole, no matter how much it hurts the medical industry (hospitals, etc.).  Sure, the doctors won't be getting paid as much, and the hospital revenue will go down, but isn't it cruel to put that before the health of the American citizen? 

There is no "freedom" or "personal liberty" in what you just said. This is in direct violation of the Constitution. I'd actually leave a dictatorship as you just described. So would most people who can afford to.

Know what happens to guys like Apoppin when people like me leave? Ethiopia.

http://www.cnbc.com/2013/12/11/


http://www.cnbc.com/2013/12/11/



(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: We need to get to the root of the problem.  Stop separating business and the population too much. 

Know why we're not Ethiopia? Corps earn the country wealth.
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#88
(07-20-2015, 12:34 PM)gstanford Wrote: We need to get back to the government governing in the name of the people, the citizenship who actually voted them into power, not governing for corporations and business entities who are not human, not citizens and don't vote!

You should do that in Australia, and not worry about what we do here.

Most of us are pretty happy with how it's done here.
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#89
(07-20-2015, 05:19 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:
(07-20-2015, 12:34 PM)gstanford Wrote: We need to get back to the government governing in the name of the people, the citizenship who actually voted them into power, not governing for corporations and business entities who are not human, not citizens and don't vote!

You should do that in Australia, and not worry about what we do here.

Most of us are pretty happy with how it's done here.
Most Americans I have talked to really envy our health care system here in Canada. You guys wasted all your money on the Vietnam War while we built a proper health care system. You guys killed people while we saved the lives of our most vulnerable. And you say you love your government and the way things are done. You just don't get it and I don't think you ever will.
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#90
A proper health care system that has massive delays. Of course, the NHS over in the UK is even worse for service.
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(07-20-2015, 09:54 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote: A proper health care system that has massive delays. Of course, the NHS over in the UK is even worse for service.
There are only delays on non urgent procedures. If you need care fast you are always taken care of and it's top notch.
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#92
What happened to the topic? All I'm seeing is some of the BBCode and "Click to edit" on some of the posts.
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#93
(07-20-2015, 05:15 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: You want the government telling you what you can eat/drink? LOL- enjoy your life on the government prescribed diet, doing the government prescribed amount of exercise daily, avoiding the risks the government says are unacceptable. Will be great when the police show up because you ordered a Danish for breakfast.

(07-20-2015, 12:16 PM)BoFox Wrote: Now, Obamacare actually puts more pressure on the government to take responsibility for the American citizen, if America is actually a democracy at all.  Stop letting businesses (McDonalds, Nabisco, etc.) put themselves before the health of the population as a whole, no matter how much it hurts the medical industry (hospitals, etc.).  Sure, the doctors won't be getting paid as much, and the hospital revenue will go down, but isn't it cruel to put that before the health of the American citizen? 

There is no "freedom" or "personal liberty" in what you just said. This is in direct violation of the Constitution. I'd actually leave a dictatorship as you just described. So would most people who can afford to.

Hey, that's not what I meant - it's the education that we need so badly.  The government knows what is healthy for us, but isn't even bothering to make sure that we understand the risks of eating crap all day long everyday.  The education system is in terrible shape compared to many other countries - public schools are barely teaching kids geometry by the time they are 17 years old, and basically nothing else.  The average high school senior can barely write a proper 3-paragraph essay, let alone a 5-paragraph essay.  Perhaps it's because they're drinking too much coke and eating too much sugar at public school lunches (provided by the public school system), and their brains are in lethargic/demented state as a result.  Several studies have been done on public schools that were willing to experiment with healthy food regiments, but the government isn't really doing anything about it nationwide, let alone statewide in any of the states.  Despondency is a common thing that is blamed on their uneducated parents as they didn't know better....  yeah, just let them all flip burgers for us in the future.. 

The trillion-dollar health care industry would be cut in half if we Americans were as healthy and physically fit as we were in the 1950's.  Even private health insurance would be far cheaper as a result.  It does not benefit only the poor but the rich as well.  The poor would be far more efficient workers as a result.  Their IQ would raise considerably, and do better in college subjects, while having more positive energy to take charge of their own lives, and to contribute more to the society.  There would be less of us needing medicaid/SSI due to better health.  Sure, the doctors, insurance companies, pharmacists, etc. get paid less as a result, as health keeps the doctors away.  It's just hard to look at the big picture when the trillion-dollar industry is in bed with the government.  A $100 dollar bill up close just looks bigger than that unlimited well of $$$ buried past the hill a few miles away.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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#94
Do you honestly think people don't know what is healthy food and exercise and what is not?

They told us all during our free public education, and it's not like the info is hard to come by.

I've been eating a quasi paleo diet for the last 6 months, have lost 28lbs.. ( I lose about a pound a week by not eating fast food for lunch anymore, and snacking on fruits/nuts/beef jerky)

But I wasn't eating KFC/pizza/burgers for lunch because the govt hadn't told me they were bad for me. I was eating them because they were fast, and tastier than the plate of raw vegetables and ham or turkey sandwiches I eat now.
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#95
As long as the public school system serve crap to the kids, like over-sweet chocolate milk, burgers and fries, or a slice of pepperoni pizza, and then places vending machines in the most populated parts of the school halls. Most kids do not know better, and need much more guidance than that. Tongue
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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(07-20-2015, 10:18 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote: What happened to the topic?  All I'm seeing is some of the BBCode and "Click to edit" on some of the posts.

I was editing smilies earlier today, you may have been on while I was doing that. Is it still messed up for you?

:confused-2:
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(07-21-2015, 07:26 AM)BoFox Wrote: As long as the public school system serve crap to the kids, like over-sweet chocolate milk, burgers and fries, or a slice of pepperoni pizza, and then places vending machines in the most populated parts of the school halls.  Most kids do not know better, and need much more guidance than that. 

This is from my real experience: when I was in high school, there were vending machines right outside the cafeteria.  In the mornings when I didn't eat enough for breakfast, I usually got a bar of Twix or Kitkat or Snickers, but then felt awful as the sugar wore out 2 hours later.  Black kids loved eating bags of cheetos or other stuff loaded with hydrogenated oils and artificial cheese flavors, etc - instead of eating anything from the cafeteria. 

And I'm hearing about schools continuing to sell junk like this even to elementary grade kids.  My sons talked about buying ice cream pops, but they never bought coke or anything like that.  My kids usually know better, but sometimes they would drink several cups of soda in a row if I let them.  Most other kids really do NOT know better, trust me, man.  They're kids, after all, for heck's sake.
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(07-21-2015, 11:05 AM)dmcowen674 Wrote: I was editing smilies earlier today, you may have been on while I was doing that. Is it still messed up for you?

:confused-2:
It's good now.
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#99
A few years back, my son had a friend over and we offered him an apple, he handed it back and said,"that's not an apple!"

Confused, I started questioning. Quickly a learned that he was expecting a plastic package with Apple spears that a kid gets in a happy meal. This kid was in his second year of preschool at the time while my son moved on to kindergarten. But honestly, the kid was serious. He had no idea what to do with a real and natural apple.

As bad as that was, the next event I remember just totally blows my mind. It was some time later when the kid was staying with us for 3days. We set down for dinner and once again this kid was dumbfounded. He was like, what is that, i don't know what it is, get it off my plate. It was carrots! He was afraid of them.

So, my wife decides to remedy the situation by whipping out some green beans. The same reaction from this kid! This is not a joke, peas, carrots, green beans, broccoli....he had never eaten these things. He was 6ys old at this time.

The next time I saw this kid, which was 4 or 5 months ago, it was obvious that he was spreading out towards obesity. If he wouldn't already have been considered obese. He was significantly wider than my son who is about the same age (my son is 1 month younger). Months had went by, almost a year, since I last seen him. And a yr ago, he was chunkier than my kid (which is completely thin, flat and slender) but wouldn't have been considered fat. Just plump, not unhealthily looking.
A lot has changed in his appearance in the last year. He spread out and no one would deny it, he is fat. He looks unhealthy, tired and even dark spots under his eyes......before he even turned 8 yr old.
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You know my big health food kick has been smoothies. I make them every day for my kids and I. I will share my kids' favorite recipe:

2 bananas
1 cup frozen mango
1 cup frozen pineapple
3 cups of water
1/2 scoop of vanilla flavored protein powder
2 tablespoons of flax seed
fill the rest of the blender with ice (I usually use a whole tray of ice)

It's delicious! Since I started doing this none of us has been sick. I have other recipes with strawberries and blueberries. Sometimes I put oatmeal in as well.
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So now it appears that gstanford has left ABT, largely because of Rollo. What do you think guys? Is Rollo good for the community here?
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(08-30-2015, 09:18 PM)SickBeast Wrote: So now it appears that gstanford has left ABT, largely because of Rollo. What do you think guys? Is Rollo good for the community here?
The ignore feature works so how can it be one person being the reason for leaving?
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(08-30-2015, 10:13 PM)dmcowen674 Wrote:
(08-30-2015, 09:18 PM)SickBeast Wrote: So now it appears that gstanford has left ABT, largely because of Rollo.  What do you think guys?  Is Rollo good for the community here?
The ignore feature works so how can it be one person being the reason for leaving?

It's kind of hard to ignore someone when they are constantly quoting you and trolling you. Rollo has been creating threads to annoy gstanford as well. If we just ignore him he's going to run amok trolling some of us. Ignoring him is basically just allowing him to slander us unfettered.
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If anyone should be banned here it's BFGStanford.

He straight out states he trolls me.

He abuses mod powers with everyone, including you SB.

He mocks people's sacred religious beliefs.

He curses like a sailor in his mockery.

This is not a "friendly person".
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Can't we all just get along
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(08-30-2015, 11:18 PM)ocre Wrote: Can't we all just get along

That's not how it works that's not how any of this works



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(08-30-2015, 11:18 PM)ocre Wrote: Can't we all just get along

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Guys has Rollo left ABT?
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probably enjoying his holiday weekend
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(09-08-2015, 04:41 AM)SickBeast Wrote: Guys has Rollo left ABT?

Yeah, I guess, since you became a moderator here (as you wished), so Rollo is afraid you're gonna neuter his balls!
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Dave, please remove the mod status from SickBeast, and let Rollo be a mod!
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There are no Moderators, I should find the template and change the wording to Spammer killers
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Pfft, just let Rollo be like me and SteelCrysis! Sickbeast should just be one of the peasants! Tongue
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Ugh! Let me have my moment, BoFox!
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Nope! Rollo needs to have his moment on you, Sickbeast! Hahahahahha.. *evil laughter*

Ocre, I didn't mean offense - you should be a mod here too! Everybody for Sickbeast or Gstan or anybody who goes over to BTR!
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you dont want to see me mod!!!

trust me,
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Dave make ocre a mod! Big Grin
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(08-30-2015, 09:18 PM)SickBeast Wrote: So now it appears that gstanford has left ABT, largely because of Rollo. What do you think guys? Is Rollo good for the community here?

Well looks like both Rollo and Gstanford left so starting fresh.

Main thing is fresh ideas for content.

Is PC, Console, Video and Gaming Technology just as exciting a commodity as a toaster now?
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(09-12-2015, 08:52 PM)dmcowen674 Wrote:
(08-30-2015, 09:18 PM)SickBeast Wrote: So now it appears that gstanford has left ABT, largely because of Rollo.  What do you think guys?  Is Rollo good for the community here?

Well looks like both Rollo and Gstanford left so starting fresh.

Main thing is fresh ideas for content.

Is PC, Console, Video and Gaming Technology just as exciting a commodity as a toaster now?

Why did Rollo leave though? He just vanished without saying anything.

I think that those topics you listed are great. We need someone to generate content though. Perhaps we could start with a news section and we could just post links with a brief description.
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You guys think he left?

I figure he is just busy, involved in something time consuming or personal
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