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11-4-2015
Police shoot 6 yr old 6 times in the head serving warrant to father
A 6-year-old Louisiana boy was fatally shot by police officers who fired into his father’s car Tuesday night.
Avoyelles Parish coroner Dr. L. J. Mayeux told the Associated Press the city marshals from Ward 2 were chasing Few’s vehicle after he fled when they tried to serve a warrant.
Officials have not yet said what the warrant the marshals were serving Few with was for. The shooting happened at about 9:30 p.m. at the end of the chase.
Avoyelles Today reports the marshals cornered the suspect in his vehicle. Few then put his vehicle in reverse and struck the police vehicle, the news site reports. The officers exited their vehicle and fired their duty pistols through the driver’s side window.
The boy was pronounced dead at the scene.
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It used to be executing a warrant but these days they are execution warrants.
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It's obviously sad/tragic/nuts this guy attempted to flee police with his six year old in tow.
But if you were a cop and a fugitive tried to elude you, then started ramming your car with his, what would you do?
Say,"Gosh, I guess this guy just doesn't want to be arrested, we better leave him alone."?
A lot of these "mean cop" posts seem to have "violently resisting arrest" involved.
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Good lord. I look at those pictures of that child and cant even begin to imagine why his dad decides to go berserk on cops with him along.
That guy must have been looking at hard time to be ramming cops, you don't do stuff like that because your traffic tickets are outstanding.
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Based on the latest information in this case- the man never tried to back his car into the officers- they committed their drive by broadside; no official office had any record of any warrant- not the local court, the DA or the state police; one of the part time marshals had personal problems with the driver of the car.
Quote:But if you were a cop and a fugitive tried to elude you, then started ramming your car with his, what would you do?
If I see an injured person on the side of the road and I help them out as best I can I am held to a reasonable standard for a normal person. A doctor in the same situation is held to a *much* higher standard as they reasonably should be.
If I end up starting a fire due to negligence, it will likely result in a good scolding from a fire marshall and maybe the police. If a fire fighter does the same, he is in serious trouble as he is reasonably held to a much higher standard as they reasonably should be.
If I give someone an over the counter medication to help with an ailment and make things bad enough they have to be hospitalized I would feel like a raging asshole, if a Pharmacist does the same he would be in trouble as they held to a *much* higher standard as they reasonably should be.
Why the fuck can cops kill with impunity and people try to act like it is OK?
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fata...oogle.com/
The average is 3.3 deaths per 100,00-
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...rmers.html
The odds of a police officer being shot to death is *slightly* higher then the average fatality rate for any normal US employee- yet we try and talk about police officers like their life is always in danger. This simply is not true.
Police should, by any reasonable assessment, be *less* likely to harm civilians than the general populace under identical circumstances. If one of the posters on this board did *EXACTLY* what the police officers in this case did we would almost certainly be held without bail awaiting our arraignment right now. But, you know, they were cops, kill on.
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(11-07-2015, 06:58 AM)BenSkywalker Wrote: Based on the latest information in this case- the man never tried to back his car into the officers- they committed their drive by broadside; no official office had any record of any warrant- not the local court, the DA or the state police; one of the part time marshals had personal problems with the driver of the car.
Quote:But if you were a cop and a fugitive tried to elude you, then started ramming your car with his, what would you do?
Why the fuck can cops kill with impunity and people try to act like it is OK?
But, you know, they were cops, kill on.
If what I have bolded was the OP, I would have responded, "The cop is a cold blooded murderer and I hope he get life without parole to live among the people he put away, because cops in prison probably aren't the most popular inmates".
However; the OP said he was a criminal both fleeing and attacking officers, with a disabled child in the vehicle no less.
Yes Ben, I believe if you lead the police on a high speed chase and endanger the public, then start ramming the police with your car endangering them, they should shoot you before you harm people who are not criminals.
I "act like this is OK" because we have rule of law, and people can't endanger the public and the cops because they feel like it.
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11-07-2015, 10:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2015, 10:47 AM by BoFox.)
Rollo, I disagree, man.. if those cops couldn't just shoot the tires, call in backup to lay down spike strips down the road ahead, etc.. then these are rage cops nonetheless who put 6 (SIX) bullets in a kid's head.
Some cops who think and act like they're the mafia probably have been doing outlaw mafia stuff for so long that it finally caught up to them (oops, a kid was in the car!).
EDIT - What's real strange about this is that it's so reminiscent of the Sons of Anarchy TV show series - like it's a real-life deja-vu of the tv show!!!
We don't even see mafias or gangs doing as much of this stuff nowadays - now, it seems like it's the cops doing all of these rage executions.
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Quote:Yes Ben, I believe if you lead the police on a high speed chase and endanger the public, then start ramming the police with your car endangering them, they should shoot you before you harm people who are not criminals.
If someone is on a murderous rampage and you or I shot and killed him we would be hailed as heroes. If we shot him, and killed an innocent child in the process we would be charged, justly, with manslaughter.
Why are the police held to a *LOWER* standard of public safety than you or I?
Quote:I "act like this is OK" because we have rule of law, and people can't endanger the public and the cops because they feel like it.
The rule of law is precisely *WHY* I have a problem. The police are regularly committing manslaughter and murder and are given a free pass. Kill a gang banging thug who was trying to kill innocent people- I'll throw money in to give the cop an all expense paid trip to Hawaii. Kill an innocent child? I already pay my taxes to either put that person behind bars or put a needle in their arm.
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11-07-2015, 06:00 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2015, 06:01 PM by RolloTheGreat.)
(11-07-2015, 01:04 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote: Quote:Yes Ben, I believe if you lead the police on a high speed chase and endanger the public, then start ramming the police with your car endangering them, they should shoot you before you harm people who are not criminals.
If someone is on a murderous rampage and you or I shot and killed him we would be hailed as heroes. If we shot him, and killed an innocent child in the process we would be charged, justly, with manslaughter.
Why are the police held to a *LOWER* standard of public safety than you or I?
Quote:I "act like this is OK" because we have rule of law, and people can't endanger the public and the cops because they feel like it.
The rule of law is precisely *WHY* I have a problem. The police are regularly committing manslaughter and murder and are given a free pass. Kill a gang banging thug who was trying to kill innocent people- I'll throw money in to give the cop an all expense paid trip to Hawaii. Kill an innocent child? I already pay my taxes to either put that person behind bars or put a needle in their arm.
I basically agree with all of this.
The only part I have some issue with the bolded part, and even that I don't have a great answer for.
When I saw this original story I assumed this guy was a dangerous criminal facing a lot of time behind bars. (crimes like you or I might commit (E.G. embezzling some money) wouldn't have us fleeing the cops and then attacking them with our car. We'd take our day in court, five year sentence, and do two years on work release)
So I assumed from the start this guy was a murderer/organized crime/high level dope dealer type guy who posed a real threat to the public.
I don't think cops should be shooting kids.
I also don't know what cops should do if criminals use kids as human shields. It's one of those crap "no win/no good outcome" situations.
If the guy is truly a danger to the public (including the kid) can the cops just let him go?
I don't agree with your analogy "If you or I shoot a criminal". What "you or I" do is different than what cops do in the course of their job. They're routinely in dangerous situations it's pretty much expected they will at some point use deadly force. We're expected to never need to.
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The striking fact is that 2 of these 4 cops were only arrested after their body cam video recording footage was reviewed.
How many cops out there actually wear body cam while serving their duty? 1%? 10%?
How many cops out there would have done much worse if they knew they were not wearing a body cam? 99%?
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(11-08-2015, 03:04 AM)BoFox Wrote: The striking fact is that 2 of these 4 cops were only arrested after their body cam video recording footage was reviewed.
How many cops out there actually wear body cam while serving their duty? 1%? 10%?
How many cops out there would have done much worse if they knew they were not wearing a body cam? 99%?
Seriously?
You think 99% of cops are blood thirsty killers?
That is totally nuts.
Over 1 million cops in the USA and once or twice a month we hear about one going rogue like this. Dude, if 99% of cops were going rogue, you'd be dead within a week. You see cops risking their lives to protect you and your family every day of your life. They don't shoot you, they don't want to shoot you.
You spend Friday night with Apoppin? Some of his crazy rub off on you?
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Haha, you got me.
I worded this wrong.. (should've read what I typed!)
I meant to say:
"How many of those corrupt cops would have done much worse if they knew they were not wearing a body cam? 99%?"
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2 of the cops have been charged with murder.
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(11-08-2015, 11:03 AM)BoFox Wrote: Haha, you got me.
I worded this wrong.. (should've read what I typed!)
I meant to say:
"How many of those corrupt cops would have done much worse if they knew they were not wearing a body cam? 99%?"
(chuckled) I agree with this.
I also think cops should wear body cams, so there is accountability. (and that these cops should spend life in jail breaking rocks on the chain gang)
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And put all of the prison population to slave labor so that they pay for their own food, shelter, etc..
Very rarely, I've seen prison workers picking up the litter on the side of roads, but certainly they could do so much more than that with their ankles chained 2 feet from each other.
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(11-10-2015, 09:00 AM)BoFox Wrote: And put all of the prison population to slave labor so that they pay for their own food, shelter, etc..
Very rarely, I've seen prison workers picking up the litter on the side of roads, but certainly they could do so much more than that with their ankles chained 2 feet from each other.
I like the labor idea for inmates, there is no reason they should be a burden on society. They could do low skill job like making socks and shirts, with the profits of their labor paying for their incarceration.
Not to mention this would provide jobs for non criminals delivering their goods to the rest of us.
We could do this with people getting subsidized food, housing, Obamacare who are not working as well.
Other countries have some pool of cheaper labor? I think not.
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