{"id":12150,"date":"2009-10-16T02:05:44","date_gmt":"2009-10-16T02:05:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alienbabeltech.com\/main\/?p=12150"},"modified":"2009-10-16T02:14:12","modified_gmt":"2009-10-16T02:14:12","slug":"foxconn-lga1156-sockets-may-hamper-extreme-overclocking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/alienbabeltech.com\/main\/foxconn-lga1156-sockets-may-hamper-extreme-overclocking\/","title":{"rendered":"Foxconn LGA1156 sockets may hamper extreme overclocking"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Think twice before busting out that tank of liquid nitrogen and overclocking the pants off a Lynnfield PC. Or, at least check the brand name at  the back of the socket retention mechanism. An article posted on AnandTech this morning suggests LGA1156 sockets manufactured by Foxconn <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anandtech.com\/mb\/showdoc.aspx?i=3661\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.anandtech.com\/mb\/showdoc.aspx?i=3661', 'may not make sufficient contact']);\" >may not make sufficient contact<\/a> with pads on the underside of the CPU, which could cause nasty burns on the socket and processor at very high overclocks.<\/p>\n<p>The first reports of the burnouts <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xtremesystems.org\/forums\/showthread.php?t=234723\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.xtremesystems.org\/forums\/showthread.php?t=234723', 'appeared']);\" >appeared<\/a> on the XtremeSystems Forums last month. Users posted photos of melted sockets and burned contacts on Core i7-800 processors, eventually laying blame on the sockets. Intel&#8217;s Francois Piednoel responded in the thread, attributing the problem to slight oxidation and overzealous overclocking:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Think about it &#8230; at 1.65V, you are around 250watts &#8230; this is 150AMPS!<br \/>\ngigabyte gave what the Overclockers asked &#8230; now, use it with moderation &#8230; I tested on a mecanical [sic] thermal dummy &#8230; the [Gigabyte GA-P55-UD6] can deliver up to 160AMPS without occilation [sic] &#8230; at this point, you are more than 2x the specs for currents &#8230; and 60% over the voltage &#8230;<br \/>\nand 263% of the based power &#8230; <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Piednoel added:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> my guess in those cases is &#8220;finger print&#8221; or oxidation due to [liquid nitrogen] condensation plus an incredible UD6 voltage supply that does not bend under load. (thing requested by the OC community) <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Admittedly, the XtremeSystems forum thread starter only saw problems after pushing his Core i7-870 to a blistering 5.19GHz at a temperature of -102\u00b0C?you know, not exactly stock specs. The Core i7-870 has a base speed of 2.93GHz, and individual cores go up to 3.6GHz with Turbo Boost.<\/p>\n<p>AnandTech&#8217;s Rajinder Gill, who posted in the thread, sees a much more direct link to the sockets. He explains in his article, &#8220;We have damaged every motherboard in our possession for the P55 overclocking (extreme) shootout as well as two very expensive i7\/870 processors.&#8221; The article goes on to say, &#8220;Physical inspection and end-user reports all but confirm the issues only affects sockets manufactured by Foxconn at this time.&#8221; (Foxconn makes sockets for a variety of motherboard makers, including Gigabyte and Asus.)<\/p>\n<p>Gill also posted incriminating photos showing that some socket pins didn&#8217;t leave marks on their corresponding CPU pads. He claims to have pushed Lynnfield CPUs further on boards with non-Foxconn sockets, too. Then again, he also points out that Lynnfield processors have fewer power-supply pins than their LGA1366 Bloomfield counterparts (175 vs. 250) despite drawing &#8220;similar levels of current&#8221; when overclocked. Perhaps LGA1156 sockets are simply less prone to extreme overclocks by design, then.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve asked Asus and Gigabyte to comment and are still awaiting replies. In any case, though, Gill specifies that this problem &#8220;will probably occur only in extreme overclocking scenarios.&#8221; We haven&#8217;t suffered any hardware failures when overclocking Core i5 and i7-800 processors in our labs, and neither did Gill &#8220;with air or water cooling overclocking up to 4.3GHz.&#8221; The vast majority of Lynnfield users can probably rest easy for now.<\/p>\n<p>Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techreport.com\/discussions.x\/17773\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.techreport.com\/discussions.x\/17773', 'The Tech Report']);\" >The Tech Report<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Think twice before busting out that tank of liquid nitrogen and overclocking the pants off a Lynnfield PC. 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