(07-22-2015, 02:22 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: http://www.vox.com/2015/7/16/8977583/toronto-protest-anti-vaccine-course
This is right up there with the time that a California school district parroted Holocaust denier arguments: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/171856/california-school-holocaust-denial

Quote:"...over $35 billion per year, everything included."

Quote:"Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution for Holocaust gassings."

(07-22-2015, 09:33 AM)ocre Wrote: But honestly........most of that stuff was propaganda.  Hitler had camps and slaves, many starved and got sick when things got bad.  But towards the end, things got bad for all of Germany.  They were completely out of resources.  If you only have enough food for half your nazis, do you think they would give it to the slaves?

What happened was sad and ugly, but talkng hundreds of thousands of people in buses and housing them takes tremendous resources.  Why?  They could have slaughtered every Jew on site instead.

Quote:Denier/revisionists like to blame Allied bombing and not the Nazis on the starvation at the concentration camps. That is a lie when it comes to Bergen-Belsen.

The Nazis knowingly starved those in Bergen-Belsen as there was a food store there the whole time. It was at what is called Hohne, a Panzer training school that on google maps is about 5 km away from the main camp site.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/quick-facts/belsen-food.shtml

"Major A. L. BERNEY, sworn, examined by Colonel BACKHOUSE.

I am with 817 Military Government Detachment. On 15th April I was sent by Headquarters 8 Corps to Colonel Taylor of the Occupying Forces of the Belsen Camp. Colonel Taylor and Brigadier Glyn Hughes were in charge. On the next day I was told to find the nearest food store, which I did at the north of the Panzer Troop School about three kilometres from the camp. I found the Hauptmann in charge of the store who informed me that he was responsible for sending some food from his store to the camp . potatoes and turnips. He did not give me any reason as to why that was the only stuff supplied. I obtained a list of food in the store from him, and remember there were 600 tons of potatoes, 120 tons of tinned meat, 30 tons of sugar, upwards of 20 tons of powdered milk; cocoa, grain, wheat and other foodstuffs.

Did you find whether there was a bakery there or not?
Yes. There is a very large bakery there with a capacity, I was told, of 60,000 loaves a day, which was completely staffed. It appeared to me that there was a very vast quantity of all the necessary materials available for making bread. The bakery is still working now and most of the staff are the same.

From your investigation of the stocks available, was there any reason why Camp No 1 should not have been supplied with food?
I cannot see any conceivable reason."


As for the Panzer Troop School and its food store, it was being used as an overflow a week before the British liberated the site;

http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/Database/DatabaseBuildingsHohne.asp

"Due to severe overcrowding of KZ Bergen-Belsen, on the 8th April 1945 the Panzer Training School was handed over by the Wehrmacht to the SS in order to house 15133 prisoners transported from Mittelbau-Dora. This area became Camp 2 of KZ Bergen-Belsen."

http://www.truppenuebungsplatzbergen.com/hawti2.htm

"The next task for Captain Roach was to issue rations to the prisoners. Realising that starving people should not be given too much food too soon, he ordered that prisoners should receive double ration of potatoes and bread with some added meat. Fortunately with the SS stores and a Wehrmacht food depot, supplies for the next few days were found."


So there was a food store there all of time and yet the Nazis did not distribute the food to the starving. No bombs affected that decision as none were dropped there.

Meanwhile the Allies were delayed getting to the camps due to fighting to the northwest between Winsen and Walle. They are both about 80km away from the camp. No bombs were dropped at Bergen-Belsen to stop food being taken the few km from the Panzer school and temporary camp at Hohne.

Quote:The nazis had a major dislike for Jews, they wanted to punish them and take away all their power and pride.  They were many mistreated and killed.  But the propaganda we are sold today is an extreme exaggeration and it is 100% one sided.  I am sorry but this is something that never made sense to me.  Why put all these people in camps when the goal has to wipe them out,  it sounds like the stupid plots in a modern movie, where the evil doer locks people up and tells them their whole plan just so the victor can spoil it.

Quote:If they wanted them all dead, they would have killed them on the spot.  The camps were terrible but the stuff we see and are shown comes from the very last days when the nazis were totally broke down.  They had no way to care for themselves, much less the thousands of slaves and POWs.  I wouldn't doubt if they killed off batches when they were at the end of their ropes, but nothing like 6-9million we are supposed to believe


http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

I am not totally buying the story, but I am not completely denouncing the wrongdoings.  It was a terrible terrible time for them

(07-22-2015, 10:58 AM)BoFox Wrote: From the source linked to above -

Quote:"...over $35 billion per year, everything included."

Well, the same source states:

Quote:"Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution for Holocaust gassings."

This statement proves that it's a lie, or at least an exaggeration, already.

$35 billion from the most supportive country, the USA, does not mean "trillions of dollars worldwide" in any way, whatsoever.  It's a ludicrous sensatiliziation attempted by the author(s), and a (frauduluent) pathetic attempt to exorbitantly paint the Jews in a shining light as possible, when the truth would have done the job sufficiently.

(07-22-2015, 01:52 PM)ocre Wrote: Yeah, But i dont understand how Jew is a bloodline and a religion??????  But, even if i convert to a Jew...... I am not sure i will be allowed in heaven.

Also, If i do convert, do i get Jew blood?  Will my kids be Jews even if they choose to convert catholic?