Rollo Wrote:I hope there's a benevolent "God" and have been known to pray.
I don't think there's a "God" that's a guy like us with magic powers as described in the Bible.
Such a being would have no use for human traits like jealousy, wrath, vengeance.
Let's say you have an anthill in your yard and the ants worship your wife as god because she dropped a donut one day. Are you jealous of the ants loyalties? No.
Let's say your son or daughter admires another adult. Are you jealous of the adult? No.
Let's say the ants eat your prize rose bush? Are you vengeful, or disappointed so you dump some poison on the ants pretty much without any feeling one way or another?
To "god" we'd be ants. As an ant, I understand I can't understand "god" but I hope he/she is less human than the Bible makes him out. (because we have issues)
Rollo Wrote:Be that as it may, I'm not on board with the idea that a being who exists outside of time and can create worlds out of nothing is going to sit around thinking, "Crikey, this monkey is worshipping the Sun of all things! For this transgression I will torture him for eternity! The Sun! Pfft! Hope he likes it hot!"
Or "Good job at accepting Jesus Mr. Hitler! Got a comfy chair waiting in Heaven for you! You fucked up Ghandi! Putting you in Hell with the other undesirables!"
Or "I think I'll create this race of people, and give them free will. I'll put the choice in front of them to get reward and bliss beyond compare for eternity if they jump through some hoops, but if they fail to jump, going to torture them through eternity. I'll complicate the matter by not showing up for 2000 years, but hey, there are libraries and televangelists- they should figure out the way not to be tortured!"
Too much doesn't add up for me to accept the established dogma, but I am definitely open to the idea our origins weren't random chemical mixing, and we don't know where the chemicals came from in the first place.
I'm smart enough not to try and figure it out, so no cult here.
Above quotes from Rollo from the butchered thread.
Great contemplation, and great philosophy, dude! Living intelligence within us and before us in the "here and now" should not be discounted nor under-estimated, no matter how much the "authority" likes to claim a know-it-all stance as to the unintelligent/non-intelligent universe based on raw primordial soup alone. I'll get back to you on this someday.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...

