02-12-2016, 07:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-12-2016, 07:11 PM by BenSkywalker.)
Quote:Why shouldn't the rich be fairly taxed?
Were we discussing corporations moving jobs overseas? Did we not cover the driving force behind that was the current tax code and the middle class who actually own these corporations? So your solution is to tax the rich more which solves..... what?
Also you yet again show that you favor corporations over people with this line. In your country, right now, people are taxed more then corporations, and you are calling to increase that gap against the people and in favor of the ones who are actually moving these jobs overseas.
Petty childish temper tantrum.
Quote:I never said taxing the rich properly is a magical panacea to solve the worlds financial problems.
It makes them worse. I'll break this down for you. The rich are a lot fucking smarter with money then you are. It isn't close, not remotely. If you increase the taxation on their income they will start to divert significant portions of it to deferred stock options. Over the long term, this will make it so the rich *ARE* the ones who own all the corporations at which point the middle class will get squeezed out of the most desirable investment opportunities *along with* the acceleration of the offshoring of jobs as the wealthy will start calling for the immediate implementation of maximized profits instead of the slow trickle effect we have with the middle class calling the shots. Subsequently, the profit margins of the companies will go up even faster, increasing their wealth even more, all the while you are getting less actual tax dollars out of them because they don't have crap for actual 'income'.
Quote:because conservative governments world wide are attempting to shirk their responsibilities to elderly citizens and deprive them of pensions, that's why.
What government is conservative? You and Sick like to act like the US is, well-
https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=SOCX_AGG
If you click on the column for spending on the elderly, then choose per head, current prices in US dollars, turns out the US is just shy of spending on the elderly what Australia and Canada spend *COMBINED* per capita. So yes, maybe in your nut job right wing nations you may have a problem with that. We spend *WAY* more then what you see in your nation on our elderly. Oh yeah, we tax our corporations more then our people too.
Quote:Conservative governments are beholden to lobbyists and rich people and formulate their policies based on what the lobbyists and rich tell them to do, not what is good for the citizens who voted for them.
You will find reality paints a very, very different story. Overwhelmingly corruption spawns and thrives on the left in government. The right are constantly trying to *reduce* government control, while the left is pushing to expand it. Pretty hard to have rampant corruption when you have a skeleton operation, pretty damn easy when you are obscenely bloated. I'm not saying proportionately either one is worse than the other, but one wants to be five times the size. Even if they have half the corruption per person, you still end up with double the total.