BoFox Wrote:AMD's just a scaredy cat chicken on a new fab process (14nm GloFo), just like back on 55nm TSMC when Nvidia was just moving to 65nm with 8800GT. ATi went tiny on 55nm with HD 3870, which wasn't any faster than HD 2900XT on 80nm.
Perhaps this is history repeating itself all over again.
Nvidia has new arch, shrinks from 90nm to 65nm.. 9800GTX is barely any faster than 8800 Ultra...
ATI - barely new arch, shrinks from 80nm to 55nm.. HD 3870 is arguably faster than HD 2900XT (and loses badly to 8800GT, let alone 9800GTX).
AMD would have to go real, real cheap with this if AMD wants to succeed.
If history actually does repeat itself, then AMD won't be cheap with Polaris 10, but then as a result will be cheap with Vega during an emergency attempt to regain lost marketshare - a la HD 4870 priced at $300 disrupting GTX 280's launch at $649, which was only like 20% faster or so.
Perhaps it's all part of the history Bible lessons..
But...but...butt....haven't you heard? We always get 200% performance jumps when there is a new node shrink and that is why the gp104 sucks. It's only twice as fast as a the GTX980. Oh, and it is such a power hog, did you see that? 180 watt tdp!!!! It's just totally unacceptable for a card that is 25-30% faster than titan x.
Oh and nvidia is crazy releasing a card that is faster than titan x for $379.
What a dud!!!
AMD claims polaris is 2.5x as efficient so they win. Nvidia claims 2x for pascal.
2.5 > 2
So it's clear as day. AMD will blow away nvidia this round