So where is the outcry dave?

[ocre]

Hey ocre, you accidentally double posted this topic.

My bad. There sre probably a million mistakes in the op as well.

I dont like posting large post with my phone. Its a hassle for several reason, not to mention the distractions.

My life is pretty full these days. But I still try to post and talk about ideas .. Problem is,
I seldom get to read what text.

Forgive me