(07-31-2015, 09:36 AM)BoFox Wrote: So, perhaps it would be a good idea for NV to just launch 2 versions of the console - one with a super low-power Pascal module that consumes only 50W or so, that has a bit over 2x the GPU power of PS4, to guarantee full-fledged 1080p processing with ALL popular current-gen console games on all HDTV's. AND another one with a powerful Pascal module that consumes perhaps 180W-200W, with at least 9x the GPU power of PS4, to guarantee the same current-gen consoles at 4K resolution with no loss in IQ or frame rate.
And the cheaper Pascal module version could be upgraded to the more powerful version, by swapping out the modules, if the customer would ever decide to do so. This would prove such upgradeability. It would be FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just watch your games transform from full 1080p to full 4K right away!!!
PS4's GPU isn't even that powerful - I just did some more calculations:
800Mhz, 1152sp (1.84 TFLOPs)
HD 7850: 860MHz, 1024sp (1.76 TFLOPs)
HD 7870: 1000MHz, 1280 sp (2.56 TFLOPs)
Even with fast access to shared 8GB GDDR3 RAM, I'd still not rate PS4's GPU at any higher than 150 VoodooPower, and that is the absolute highest I would go. So, 9x the power of PS4 would be a bit more than 50% faster than the current GPU king, TitanX. 50% is more than within reach of such a super-massive full-node shrink of 16nm FINFET Pascal architecture, without even needing to consume as many watts - perhaps say, 60-70% the wattage or so, which would put it at less than 200W for sure - perhaps even less than 180W.
Now, I have a better idea.. make it 3 versions:
1) Baseline console version with 50W Pascal GPU module with 2.25x the power of PS4's GPU, for guaranteed 1080p with all PS4/XBone gen game ports. Availability in most stores. Same price as PS4 (or even $50 less, giving XBone a run for its money). Full-fledged Android experience, plus access to vast library of 30,000 Android games from Google Play store makes it a no-brainer. Pascal GPU GP107 16nm FINFET
2) More limited, 100W Pascal module with 4.5x the power of PS4's GPU, for guaranteed 1080p @ 60fps play. Also bigger hard drive. Availability in few stores, for $100 more than the baseline version. Module card also available as an upgrade later on when trading in the baseline version (similar to EVGA's step-up program), purchased directly from NV for $100. Pascal GPU GP106 16nm FINFET
3) Not as limited as #2 option. Available in many bigger stores as well, pushing 4K. 180-220W Pascal module with 9x the power of PS4's GPU, for guaranteed 4K gameplay with all PS4/XBone gen game ports. Even bigger hard drive as well. The Pascal module has 4x the HBM capacity as well. "Elite" console costs $300 more than the baseline version at stores. Powerful Pascal module card also available as an upgrade directly from Nvidia's step-up program, for $350.
This powerful GPU designed for 4K gamplay would be like GM204 for the Maxwell generation, but GP104 for the Pascal generation.
Also, Nvidia should buy LeapMotion and develop something as competition to M$'s Kinect 2.0 and Sony's Eyecam.
Hundreds of thousands of people spending upwards of $1000 on their massive 4K displays will be so happy to be able to enjoy actual 4K content at last, after suffering such staggering lack of 4K content for a couple years now.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...

