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Why you don't set the minimum wage to $70K
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(08-10-2015, 04:06 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: The problem with the extreme poverty here is the people in it find it easier to collect free money than do the work the illegal immigrants very much desire. (because they can't collect free money)

We could solve the welfare problem and the illegal immigrant problem if we:

A. Shifted the risk/penalty from immigrants to employers
B. Shifted welfare benefits to be collected through business owners as subsidy for work


Of course, if the starving people of Mexico and Central America had to stay there and starve, it might de-stabilize the region which would have other issues.

I understand Point B, but am not sure I understand exactly how you would achieve Point A?  And how exactly would that make things better?

Those fed with a silver spoon will never understand what it means to be like, coming from a rural town that provided piss-poor education to begin with.  Oops, she didn't even have birth control education or was even able to afford a condom, so she had 3 kids before she could ever dream of completing a full bachelors degree - and had to work 2 full time jobs ever since just to afford feeding her kids peanut butter and crackers.  It's not a rare situation, if there are 2.5 million homeless children in the USA as of 2013 (linked in one of my posts above), on a sharp 8% increase from year to year.  The well-off think they know everything when actually, they have never stepped foot in a trailer park just once in their lives.

Regarding the de-stabilization of the region - those able to afford to move out of the nation (or at least with the courage) should be using the resources or the courage to build up their own nations, rather than escaping to America.  "The Land of Opportunity" illusion has spread across the world, as to the reason the US became the most powerful economy after WW2, so pretty much every single immigrant is believing in this old adage, that it would apply to themselves as well.  How about they use their own energy to organize a rights movement in their own nation, or to build upwards like East Germany did when joining West Germany?!?  Just a bit unification and cooperation is all that is needed. 

Yet, (also regarding Point B), we do need some independence to a degree.  If it were truly a world of "Borgs", is it then Communism/Socialism beneath all of this facade?  Lenoardo da Vinci would've never had the opportunity to spark the Renaissance - Galileo not ever perfecting his telescope, nor Newton discovering the law of gravitation and Calculus, etc..   and Apoppin would've never become quite the legendary reviewer, hehe.  Europe pretty much owes its long-standing prosperity to the fact that some people were allowed to dedicate themselves to matters beyond the scope of the Borg officer/employer.  While I digress now, by concurring that you, Rollo, are correct that far too many abuse welfare and food stamp benefits while not contributing in any meaningful way back to the economy or to a more far-reaching prosperity of the civilization as whole, I hope we understand each other that stressing the opposing points in debate do not mean absolution in any way.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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RE: Why you don't set the minimum wage to $70K - by BoFox - 08-10-2015, 10:35 AM

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