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Ultimate Proof That Google Fiber Is Not Serious
#1
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Ancho...les-135868
If Google was serious, they could have rolled out Google Fiber to all of their current cities by now.
Quote:Alaska's GCI (see our user reviews) says the ISP has completed deployment of its ultra-fast "Red" gigabit broadband service to Anchorage. The company started its deployment of gigabit services in September and completed it at the end of November. The 1 Gbps downstream, 50 Mbps upstream service costs $175 a month, but according to the company's FAQ, GCI's Red gigabit service comes with a 750 GB usage cap.
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#2
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Towns...low-135888
How much longer will it be before people realize that Google Fiber's promises are just as hollow?
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#3
I don't know that google fibre ever promised to connect everybody in the USA (or anything remotely close to that)

I do know you have a fucking giant axe to grind against them for some reason (my most likely guess is you own cable or telco shares and feel threatened by google fibre encroaching on the profits of those you have shares in).
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#4
Nope, it has to do with the fiber-to-the-press-release that Google Fiber pioneered and never gets slammed for, whereas the other ISPs get slammed for doing the exact same thing on a smaller scale: announce fiber deployment to a city, actually deploy to close to none of it. If they were serious, they could roll out to an entire city in a matter of months.
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#5
I don't see any google press release in your OP, in fact the article you link to makes no mention of google or of google fibre whatsoever!
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#6
My OP shows that GCI was able to deploy to the 300,000 people (http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/table...l?src=bkmk) of Anchorage, Alaska, in just a few months. Yet Google Fiber can manage only 1/3 of that in 3 years in Kansas City. That's pathetic.
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#7
Maybe, just maybe, google fibre isn't interested in dominating the market?! Ever think of that, genius?
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#8
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Repor...018-136099
They also cite their previous article about how some anal-yst is fantasizing about Google Fiber, which was such a joke that I didn't even bother posting it here. Anyway, they're not going to reach 2.4 million homes by the end of 2017. I predict they won't have reached 1 million by that time.
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#9
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...ion-136263
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comca...nta-136268
Despite Comcast being dubious on details, they get it absolutely right when they say "Don't fall for the hype," considering that Google Fiber is spreading like continental drift. Then there's this new price tier. It proves that Google Fiber has realized that it has generated enough hype for nearly everyone to think they can do no wrong, and that they can start relatively shortchanging people on bandwidth/$. From 1 Gbps at 70$ per month to 100 Mbps at 50$ per month. This had better not become a trend.
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#10
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...-Of-136366
Now I'm worried. They're pulling an AT&T Uverse-style minuscule deployment using existing fiber lines.
Quote:Google Fiber has announced it's starting to offer Google Fiber to select apartment buildings in San Francisco, using existing fiber. According to a Google Fiber blog post, San Francisco will be the 22nd metro area Google plans to offer some flavor service. To be clear Google Fiber's announcement makes no mention of a broader San Francisco build, only stating "some apartments, condos, and affordable housing properties" will be offered symmetrical gigabit service using existing fiber already deployed in the city.
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#11
And the problem with that being?!

It is idiotic to duplicate infrastructure without a good reason.  If the fibre is already there it should be used.  That is what happened here with the NBN (until the Liberals came to power and wrecked the plans), areas that already had fibre had that fibre used in the NBN rollout.

Would love to know your beef against Valve and Google.

Valve is fairly easy to work out, probably got an account ban for idiotic multiplayer behaviour, not sure what the problem might be with google and you.
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#12
The problem is that it's a virtual repeat of the fiber-to-the-press-release fiber releases by their competition. Their competition got slammed for doing virtually the same thing Google Fiber is doing in San Francisco, and it was always held up that Google Fiber deployed to cities. That precedent just got compromised.
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#13
For about the millionth time in this thread GOOGLE NEVER PROMISED TO ROLL OUT FIBRE TO EVERYONE! They aren't trying to take the fibre industry over. They are only doing it to force the ISP's to also do it instead of sitting around with their fingers jammed up their butts!
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#14
Sure they did. They implied it by their statements that they were rolling out to cities. The fact that they got closer to this than the competition is what set them apart from the competition. That's been compromised now.
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#15
They implied nothing of the sort except in your fevered imagination!
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#16
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...sco-136376
Meanwhile, an ISP other than the holy Google Fiber deploys 1 Gbps fiber at $40 a month to 2 whole districts. No ticker tape parade, just Google Fiber lapdogs whining in the comments.
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#17
Only person who whines about Google Fibre is you.

You must have shares in comcast/verizon/AT&T/TWC/Shaw etc otherwise you wouldn't be whining!
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#18
Not just SteelCrysis, but the author of this:

Quote:Yesterday Google Fiber stole headlines with its announcement that it would be offering gigabit broadband to a few apartment buildings in San Francisco...some day. While the announcement was extremely light on details regarding price, full scope, and availability (read: virtually none), it overshadowed the launch of a significantly larger and cheaper San Francisco gigabit fiber deployment by independent ISP Sonic, one of the only viable survivors of the CLEC/ILEC wars of years past.

SteelCrysis does have a valid point here.  Google is already the most valuable company in the world, having just beaten Apple, but Google is pathetic with rolling out Fiber. 

I guess it's a good thing since Google is just too powerful of a company now.  These corporate giants (Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, etc.) are blown up into super-giants these days, and anti-monopoly laws are no longer working against them.
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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#19
There is some interesting news about google fibre currently doing the rounds. We will see if SteelCrysis has the balls to post it or not. I'm guessing he won't because it is actually benefiting another ISP which hurts his efforts to paint google fibre in a bad light.

If he doesn't post the story, I will (I've given you enough rope to hang yourself with Steel - prove that you aren't an industry shill where google fibre is concerned).
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#20
What is it? AT&T's lawsuit? It isn't interesting to me. It's hard to get excited over yet another lawsuit.
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#21
No it isn't that.  It is something else, something you would get all righteous and indignant over if google were inadvertently benefiting instead of one of the big established ISP's .
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#22
What is it? I get my Google Fiber news from DSL Reports, and they haven't talked about whatever it is you're talking about. Or if they have, I've overlooked it.
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#23
http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/03/...tax-break/

Quote:When the Oregon legislature changed the state's tax rules last year, it was trying to convince Google Fiber to bring its high-speed Internet to Oregonians.

But lawmakers apparently didn't realize that the rule change would also hand a big tax break to Comcast. The new rule reduced property taxes for companies that offer gigabit-speed Internet service, which Google sells for $70 a month with no construction fees passed on to customers. But the rule change didn't specify that companies have to offer gigabit service at any particular price in order to qualify for the tax break. Comcast thus now qualifies for lowered property taxes because it offers 2Gbps Internet service, despite charging prices that would steer most ordinary customers to slower Internet speeds. Comcast's 2Gbps service costs $300 per month, with $1,000 in startup fees.
Further Reading
Oregon changes tax rules to lure Google Fiber

Google criticized Oregon's first attempt, but state met the company's demands.

Rep. Phil Barnhart (D-Eugene) told utility regulators yesterday that the tax break was meant to spur investments in new networks and that legislators never considered that a company charging such high prices for gigabit service would get the tax break, according to The Oregonian.

http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest...ff_on.html
Quote:The break wasn't meant for Comcast, insisted Rep. Rep. Phil Barnhart (D-Eugene). He said the company's new "Gigabit Pro" service uses an existing network and charges extreme prices the Legislature never contemplated when they approved the tax breaks last year. Awarding the tax breaks to Comcast would, Barnhart testified, reward the company for doing "nothing."

"The Legislature is not likely to be that foolish," he said. "We are foolish often, but usually not that foolish."
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#24
Oh. I don't care to the point that I didn't notice it. It's Oregon's fault, not Google Fiber.
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#25
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ISPs-...nia-136481
It's a shame. What's nearly as bad is that Google Fiber wouldn't roll out much faster than not rolling out at all if the blocking didn't exist.
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#26
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...-broadband
Quote:“There’s a lot more bark than bite” behind Google’s strategy, said Roger Entner, an analyst with Recon Analytics LLC.
...
“Any time Google is doing three, AT&T is doing 30 cities,” Entner said.
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Consumers often stick with the incumbents, even if they get speeds slower than 1 gigabit. Many customers in Provo, Utah, where Google Fiber was rolled out in 2014, have managed to wrangle lower rates by calling their existing providers and threatening to switch, said Wayne Parker, chief administrative officer for the city.
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She declined to comment on whether Alphabet would consider buying an existing telecom or cable company to speed up the Fiber rollout. While the company doesn’t release subscriber numbers, Google Fiber is expanding into seven more cities, although it declined to provide a timeline.

So far, analysts say Google isn’t making a dent in the incumbents’ results.

“Nowhere in this discussion of cable subscribers has Google even been relevant,” said Paul Sweeney, director of North American research at Bloomberg Intelligence.

Internet provider CenturyLink Inc.’s chief marketing officer, Bill Hurley, said in a statement that Google Fiber “had no impact” on the company’s decision to offer 1 gigabit service in portions of 19 states. The competition would help bring high-speed Internet access to underserved areas, he said. Google and other companies have been criticized for focusing on wealthy neighborhoods.
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The incumbents are benefiting from Google’s entry as cities relax their requirements for buildouts, and strive to reduce permitting and other costs.

“Growing customer demand, advancing technologies and pro-investment municipal policies that lower construction costs have accelerated our recent network deployments,” AT&T said last week in a statement.

In Austin, Texas, for instance, Google has been allowed to experiment with micro-trenching -- digging shallower pits for the fiber than are typically used.

“The activation is much faster and less expensive,” said Rondella Hawkins, officer of telecommunications and regulatory affairs for the Texas capital.

Meanwhile, Atlanta is talking with Google and other providers about splitting the costs of opening up roads in places with existing municipal fiber, which the city wants to upgrade, said Kristin Wilson, Atlanta’s deputy chief operating officer.

With three major providers fighting it out, “we are thrilled,” she said. “We want options and competition for our citizens.”

Of course, DSLReport's response is to spin, spin, spin! http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...ice-136827
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#27
And the precedent of Google Fiber being deployed to cites rather than apartment blocks just got even more compromised: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...lle-136850
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#28
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...ets-136937
Spin, spin, spin! Google Fiber expands at the rate of continental drift? Spin, spin, spin, and forget all about GCI's 3 month deployment to all of Anchorage, which they reported on! Also, I love Karl Bode's Freudian slip when he says "While Google Fiber is still derided on some fronts as all hype, the impact the service has had on competition (both real competition and conversations about it) can't be under-stated." Of course, the so-called "impact" has almost nothing to do with Google Fiber and almost everything to do with DOCSIS 3.1 upgrades.
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#29
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/If-Bo...low-137130
Quote:Last month Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam told investors that Boston Mayor Marty Walsh's administration was "more willing to help us get rights of way, help us push fiber into the neighborhoods, and do more pre-subscription a la the Google model." That's effectively code for the fact that Google Fiber has made it cool to cherry pick certain neighborhoods, unlike the "olden days" where franchise agreements required a company service an entire city (again, not that Verizon actually did that).

Like Google Fiber's "fiberhood" initiative, Verizon is only the latest ISP to copy the idea in which the first neighborhoods to get fiber will be the ones that show the most interest. Granted nobody really audits to determine how this interest is calculated or if the end tallies are real, though it does help ISPs give the impression that selective deployment of a necessary utility is a democratic process. Critics have frequently highlighted how such a system only amplifies the digital divide, as poorer communities by nature often have greater struggles to deal with than begging for next-generation broadband.
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#30
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...TOS-137223
And Google Fiber continues its descent into scumbag behavior.
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#31
Corporations slowly but surely attacking civilizations!!!  

Soon, Google will be the next China, and Microsoft will be the next Soviet Union - both fighting to take as much of our own property as possible!


Simple solution for America:::::::

We the People appeal to the Supreme Court (metaphorically like a class-action lawsuit against ALL the companies), to make it ILLEGAL for companies to ever block class-action lawsuits again.  

If this is not ever possible, then companies are on the constant rise set to become as powerful as governments of many countries in Europe, all fighting for our personal stashes.
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#32
Good ideas, BoFox.

Edit: According to one of the comments, you can still sue Google Fiber in small claims court.
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#33
https://consumerist.com/2016/06/16/googl...ht-to-sue/
Quote:When reached for comment on this story, Google refused to explain its rationale behind this change to its user agreement.

However, a close look at the confusing terms of service show that users can opt out, but they must do so quickly.

According to the terms, the new agreement kicks in within 30 days of accepting the new language. Customers can, however, during that time period use this online form (you must be logged in to your Fiber account to access it) to opt out of this change and future changes to the arbitration agreement.

Given that the terms were changed on June 9 and it’s already June 16, that’s a significant chunk of time that’s already been taken away from the opt-out window, so if you want to retain your right to a jury trial if Google Fiber ever screws you over, fill that form out now.
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#34
In contrast to Google Fiber: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Sudde...int-137381
Quote:The company has been quick to take a few shots at Google and AT&T for not having more uniform gigabit deployments.
"In sharp contrast to companies like Google and AT&T, which are offering a Gigabit service only to a few neighborhoods in primarily urban markets, we're making our service available in all of the neighborhoods and households passed by our network throughout the Greenville area." said Suddenlink of its gigabit initiative.
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#35
Shockingly the local cable provider in my area now offers gigabit internet and I got a crazy promotion for 500mbps service. I have to say it's really wonderful. I can download large steam games in a few minutes.
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#36
(07-12-2016, 09:17 PM)SickBeast Wrote: Shockingly the local cable provider in my area now offers gigabit internet and I got a crazy promotion for 500mbps service. I have to say it's really wonderful. I can download large steam games in a few minutes.
Congrats, dude!
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#37
Thanks! Smile
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#38
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Repor...int-137750
https://www.theinformation.com/inside-th...ogle-fiber
They expected ~5 million on Google Fiber in 5 years? You'd think that if they were serious, they could have achieved that with Google's countless billions backing them
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#39
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...les-138049
Just in case anyone thought Google wasn't just another ISP.
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#40
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Googl...ses-138194
Quote:Google Fiber has announced that the company will be laying off an unspecified number of employees and pausing the deployment of ultra-fast broadband in several of the company's "potential" markets. According to a blog post by Access CEO Craig Barrett, Barrett will be stepping down from his role as Access CEO effective immediately, his replacement as-yet unnamed. Barrett also confirmed that Google Fiber will be pausing or ceasing fiber deployment in ten cities the company had previously claimed were "potential" markets.

The announcement comes after an August report claimed that executives at Google weren't happy with initial uptake numbers, and were considering a shift toward using wireless as a supplemental deployment option.

Barrett was quick to make it clear that service will continue in the company's existing markets (Atlanta, Austin, Charlotte, Kansas City, Nashville, Provo, Salt Lake City, and The Triangle in North Carolina). The company also says it remains dedicated to promised deployment plans in Huntsville, Alabama; San Antonio, Texas; Louisville, Kentucky; and Irvine, California.

But the company will be pausing or ending potential but not-yet formalized deployments in Portland, Chicago, Jacksonville, Los Angeles, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, San Diego, San Jose, and Tampa. Most of these cities had yet to see any notable work, and most were still in the early stages of conversation with Google Fiber.

That said, Barrett makes it clear that Google Fiber isn't folding up shop, but "refining" the company's existing business model.
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