06-01-2015, 09:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2015, 10:06 PM by SteelCrysis.)
(06-01-2015, 05:09 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:Actually, there's also the possibility that the job market is so horrible that the majority of the poor can't get work to continue qualifying for welfare, and that forcing them to go through vocational training and volunteering hoops that don't help them at all in this experience-demanding job economy makes them realize that this form of welfare is a waste of time and effort for no gain in chances of getting a job for themselves.(06-01-2015, 03:31 AM)SickBeast Wrote:(06-01-2015, 12:31 AM)ocre Wrote: I think you guys are the ones only focused on money, gstanford.You are encouraging Rollo...
I took a liberal Democrat friend up to my cabin last night to go fishing. This guy has two Masters degrees, works in the college system. We disagree on most things political, debate liberal and conservative ideology while we fish.
First I shared this story with him:
http://www.usherald.com/maine-welfare-re...-benefits/
Quote:After forcing these individuals to either work part-time for twenty hours each week, enroll in a vocational program, or volunteer for a minimum of twenty-four hours per month, the numbers showed a significant drop from 12,000 enrollees to just over 2,500.
Then I brought up this thread, and the impending "revolution". He started laughing, and said "What is the cause that is supposed to galvanize the people to attack our military and basically commit suicide?! If money is the issue, your first story apparently proves 80% of the poor won't even work 6 hours a week for it. These guy think they'll lay down their lives in hopes of higher wages?!"
My friend and I disagree on most political issues and debate the "rights" of the poor all the time. On this we agreed immediately: The poor in the USA have things good enough that they will choose to keep on with the status quo before getting shot by the National Guard.

