Ruminations on various benchmarks for the OMAP 3600s, Hummingbird, and Snapdragon

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  1. halconX says:

    This comment is really wrong

    >> So essentially the OMAP 3640 is the same CPU as what is contained in the original Droid but clocked up to 1 GHz

    You really don’t know what you are saying. The OMAP3630 can run at 1Ghz, also the bus speed has been increased significantly along with the SGX core frequency, with more hardware improvements than 3430, 3630 eats alive a 3430 by a big margin, also the 1Ghz Snapdragon stays behind by significant margin too (How do I know? Well let’s say… I work at TI 😉 so the Droid X is extremely powerful not comparable with the first Droid.

  2. DancingAndroid says:

    First off i want to thank Electrofreak for his articles i have been searching long time fore any kind of valid or more in depth info for smartphone hardware.I read a lot of articles for pc hardware and reading from you’re articles i was quite surprised to see that this SoCs are left quite bandwith starved (the absolute opposite for pc hardware as memory has very little impact most of the times on overall performance).So when i first saw moto shadow to do so good on the quadrant benchmark i was quite surprised.I initially thought that motorola put OMAP 4 but then it was shown that it was actually OMAP 3640.After reading this article i does make sense,even with LPDDR2 it would have been quite hard to achieve 90 MT/s,so instead it seams that sammy just put dedicated GPU memory while motorola were clever to decide to put faster memory simply because it bogs down both the CPU and GPU.
    And thanks again i just get very interested in smartphone hardware,its just amazing how much power and features you can put in you’re pocket.Smartphones are really the swiss knife of technology these days

  3. Electrofreak says:

    halconX, I appreciate your contribution, this is exactly the kind of info I’ve been looking for. I was basing that comment upon study I’ve made of the differences between the product brochures on TI’s webpages, which don’t go into a lot of detail.

    I was aware the SGX core frequency was increased; this is due to the fact that the core was reduced to the 45 nm feature size as well. The paragraph after the one you quoted from states as much. What I would like to know is exactly how much it was increased to, since I assume Motorola kept the GPU clocked to match available memory bandwidth (which, as I theorize, was likely increased dramatically by a shift from LPDDR to LPDDR2 memory).

    I would encourage you to go back and read all of what I wrote, and please share anything you can with us. Thanks!

  4. Electrofreak says:

    FOLLOW-UP:

    The reason for why the Droid X is benchmarking higher has been determined; check out the following benchmark test on AndroidAndMe: http://androidandme.com/2010/07/news/droid-x-vs-galaxy-s-and-more-with-quadrant-professional/

    Ultimately, what puts the Droid X ahead is significantly higher performance in the I/O test, but this appears to be due to a bug in the Galaxy S firmware that is hampering I/O performance. Some open source developers have found a fix that puts the Galaxy S and it’s Hummingbird back in the lead: http://android.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=313365&view=findpost&p=1344806

  5. Jude Tapales says:

    At the same time as I love a physical keyboard, after dealing with the Samsung Captivate for approximately 15 minutes, it’s laborious to head back. At the moment I’m debating whether or not to go to Verizon for the Droid X, move to Sprint for the EVO, or stick with AT&T for the Captivate…choices, decisions.

  6. McGeezy says:

    Hi Everyone! I’m brand new. To the group. Not the world 😉

    I came across this page and it seems like you are the only ones who know what you are really talking about. Heck, Verizon doesn’t even know what version of Bluetooth their phones have. “They say things like – What do you mean 2.0 or 2.1; EDR? I’m sure it does.” No offense to a Verizon tech or sales person who knows what they ARE doing! :-)

    Ok. So in simple terminology can someone rate the current prcoessing speeds, (Sep 1, 2010) in order from Fastest to Slowest for the following phones – So, I can make a decision without trying to figure out this technological genius :-) Feel free to chime in with any opinions regarding bluetooth compatibility, simple quality issues, camera quality. I do really want a phone that can take a photo at a concert and not be completely blury when I load it on my computer.

    Ok….Here are the phones:

    Verizon’s HTC Incredible: Qualcomm® QSD8650, 1Ghz Snapdragon Processor w/ Android 2.1

    Sprint’s HTC EVO 4G: 1 GHZ Snapdragon Processor w/ Android 2.2*

    Sprint’s Samsung Epic 4G: 1GHz Hummingbird Cortex A8 processor
    w/ Android 2.2*

    Verizon’s Motorola DROID X: 1GHz TI OMAP processor w/ Android 2.1

    Verizon’s Motorola DROID II (2): TI OMAP 1GHz w/ Dedicated GPU
    w/ Android 2.2*

    * Allegedly, these phones shipped or have been updated to Android 2.2. They may not have. Just going by what the company website and CNET is saying.

    I currently am trying to decide between the Droid II and HTC Incredible.
    I know the Epic and EVO are most likely incredible phones. However, the EVO is almost impossible to find and is still holding strong at $199.99. The Epic, has already dropped to $199.99 from $249.99 in 1 day. The Incredible is $79.99 and the Droid II is $99.99. I honestly thought I would jump on the Epic bandwagon, as I’ve always had Samsung Phones in the past (like old school phones) and never understood Motorola’s Interface. Well, that has all changed with Android phones.

    The 4G concept is also inticing; however, I live in Orlando and haven’t been put on the list for 4G yet, by Sprint. Plus, RoadRunner Lightening is launching and will be getting speeds of 40,000 kbps with boosts up to 50,000 kbps (download). Around 2500 kbps – 5000 kbps upload. Right now, RR Turbo gives me 20000-30000 kbps download and 1800-2100 kbps upload. So, replacing that with a Wireless 4G Network is probably not the smartest thing to do for someone who watches streaming netflix and huluplus all the time. (Sorry for the tangent). Plus, I have a 4G Sprint Sierra Wirelesss Mobile HotSpot just sitting in my closet, brand new, never opened, waiting for the launch.

    Back to phones:

    For the past 15 days, I’ve been miserable withe Samsung Intercept, a hold-over phone for the launch of the Epic. Well, if they are anything alike – I don’t think I want any part of the Samsung Android Revolution. I’m sure the Intercept has a subpar processor and has only a 3.2 MP camera. However, it is so slow and unresponsive. The list of applications, under the Settings>Applications menu, takes 30 seconds to populate the icons associated with the 20 or so Applications installed. The Droid X, I played with in the Verizon store was instantaneous. Plus, the Samsung Intercept is the first phone I’ve ever owned that does not sync with my Ford Focus (2008) with all current updates and upgrades. It also will not sync with my MacBook Pro Bluetooth to send or receive photos, music, etc.

    On a final note. I could care less if it has an external physical QWERTY keyboard, doesn’t have one – it makes no difference. I usually use the touchscreen. However, if it only has a touchscreen – It has to have SWYPE.

    Therefore, any advice as to purchase decisions based on your experiences as a group of tech specialists – is greatly appreciated! I apologize in advance fo my long post and all the questions. I trust you all more than I trust any mainstream website review or product page.

    Thanks in Advance!!!!

    Mike A.K.A McGeezy

  7. Lan Petersik says:

    Very interesting post. Bookmarked.

  8. Sophie Munlin says:

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