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  AMD Making iGPU For Intel Mobile 8th Gen CPU
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 11-07-2017, 07:03 AM - Forum: Video - Replies (1)

Interestingly, this was Intel's idea.

Quote:The dawn of the chiplet marks a tremendous shift in the semiconductor industry. The industry is somewhat skeptical of the chiplet concept, largely because it requires competitors to arm their competition, but the Intel and AMD collaboration proves that it can work with two of the biggest heavyweights in the computing industry. Not to mention bitter rivals. Industry watchers have also largely been in agreement that EMIB would not filter down to the consumer market for several years, but the announcement clearly proves the technology is ready for prime time.

DARPA initially brought the chiplet revolution to the forefront with its CHIPS (Common Heterogeneous Integration and Intellectual Property (IP) Reuse Strategies) initiative, which aims to circumvent the limitations of the waning Moore's Law.

Intel plans to bring the new devices to market early in 2018 through several major OEMs. Neither Intel nor AMD have released any detailed information, such as graphics or compute capabilities, TDP ratings, or HBM2 capacity, but we expect those details to come to light early next year.

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  Bin Laden's Steam Account
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 11-02-2017, 08:38 PM - Forum: Gaming - No Replies

Wow. Counter-Strike gamers were playing with a terrorist.

Quote:Additionally, according to the post below, Osama Bin Laden also had a Steam account which references Counter-Strike.

We don't know exactly how much Osama Bin Laden might have played Counter-Strike, or necessarily which team he might have preferred. But for people who are familiar with the game, the thought that he might have played alongside or against us at some point makes the version of the game where "Terrorists win!", maybe a little bit too real.

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  GamersNexus Rant About Unboxing Embargoes
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-30-2017, 12:01 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies


  • Unboxings don't resemble the actual user's unboxing experience
  • Unboxings are a waste of time
  • Unboxing embargoes only serve to generate more hype
  • He used to only do games before he moved to hardware, and he observed special embargoes in the gaming industry
  • The best way is to do it the old way, the way AnandTech covered the Threadripper 1950X

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  Optane 900p SSD Review
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-28-2017, 05:15 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies


Quote:That doesn't mean you aren't missing out. The Intel Optane SSD 900P delivered the best user experience we've ever had. We built a new system to test the drive in BAPCo's SYSmark 2014, and that required a fresh install of the operating system, drivers, and a few pieces of software. I'd say the installation process was truly magic, but that sounds too cliche.

You will see and feel a performance benefit just by using the Optane SSD 900P as your operating system drive. The feel of the system changes even if you’re replacing a high-performance NVMe SSD. You will notice the increased responsiveness immediately and then gradually become accustomed to it. In our experience, you will take the performance for granted until you work on a slower PC. Then you'll wish it had an Optane SSD.

There is a difference between seeing a performance improvement and actually using the drive to its full capabilities. We will never use the Optane 900P to its fullest in a desktop PC. We can say the same about NAND-based NVMe SSDs like the Intel 750, Samsung 960 Pro, and even the 960 EVO. Your initial reaction to this is rational: if I can't use a 960 EVO to its fullest, why should I pay more for an Optane SSD 900P?

With Optane, the difference is the type of performance you gain. The Intel Optane 900P is fast at low queue depths, and that is where you need the performance the most.

Many users complain that the latest NVMe SSDs perform similarly to the SATA SSDs they replaced. If you don't push a complex workload to the drive, you will likely only see a small performance boost when you step up to a faster NAND-based SSD. The chart above shows why many users feel this way. The move from disk was a leap, but the improvements have been relatively small between SSDs.
3D XPoint is still in its infancy. If the small size or high price put the Optane 900P SSD out of your reach, just give it a few years.

At one point we suspected the Optane SSD 900P 280GB would cost around $600, and we were fine with that price based on our experience with the drive.

If you are tired of buying a new SSD every year or two only to gain a small performance increase, the Optane 900P is a product you can invest in and slow your upgrade frequency. In the long run, even priced at $599, the 480GB is more than a worthy upgrade. The 900P 280GB has an obvious capacity issue that many can look past to access the large performance gains. If we were trying to choose between one or the other, we would choose the 480GB model for its increased capacity.

As for the technology, the release of a new memory class in our lifetime is the storage tech-world equivalent to living through the moon landing. This is an exciting time.

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  Ryzen APU Thread
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-27-2017, 07:30 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies

Let's kick it off: https://www.techpowerup.com/238175/amd-r...n-detailed

Quote:While "Summit Ridge" is the combination of two "Zen" CCX (quad-core CPU complex) units making up an 8-core CPU die that lacks integrated graphics, the "Raven Ridge" silicon combines one "Zen" CCX with an integrated graphics core based on the "Vega" architecture. AMD's new Infinity Fabric interconnect ferries data between the CCX and the iGPU, and not an internal PCIe link. The CCX houses four "Zen" CPU cores with 64 KB of L1I cache, 32 KB of L1D cache, 512 KB of dedicated L2 cache, and 4 MB of L3 cache shared between the four cores.

The integrated graphics core is a different beast. It features similar (albeit scaled-down) front-end and back-ends from the "Vega 10" silicon, a similar video engine, and an SIMD area with 10 "Vega" next-gen compute units (NGCUs). This works out to a stream processor count of 640. Other key specifications include 40 TMUs, and 16 ROPs.

The video engine is now extremely capable, supporting hardware-accelerated decoding of CODECs such as VP9 10-bpc and HEVC 10-bpc at frame-rates of up to 240 for 1080p, and 60 for 4K UHD. It can also encode H.265 8-bpc at frame-rates of up to 120 at 1080p, and 30 at 4K UHD. You finally get to use the display connectors on your socket AM4 motherboards, as the iGPU supports DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b, with resolutions of up to 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz with HDR, 1440p @ 144 Hz, and 1080p @ 240 Hz.
AMD seems so have increased the amount of power-gating on its silicon. Disabled or idling components triggered by lower power-states, are now power-gated (their power-supply cut off), and not clock-gated (their clock cadence cut-off). The chip is peppered with multiple LDO (low-dropout regulator) regions for the CCX, iGPU, and uncore regions, with a common VDD package rail for both the off-chip (on motherboard) and on-chip voltage controllers.

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  Highest Airflow PC Ever
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-26-2017, 03:40 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies

Even more airflow than that PC case made out of fans.

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  Newegg Sued For Alleged Ponzi Scheme
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-23-2017, 09:58 PM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies


Quote:Online computer hardware and accessory store Newegg has been sued by four South Korean banks. The L.A. Times reports that the banks allege that Newegg collaborated with South Korean hardware firm Moneual to defraud them of hundreds of millions of dollars.

The lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, claims that Newegg and computer wholesaler ASI Corp. made false orders for home-theater computers from Moneual. The banks claim that Moneual organized the scheme and used the fake orders to obtain funds from the four banks. Newegg and ASI allegedly received a cut of the money in exchange for their cooperation.

Moneual pulled in more than $3 billion from the from 10 South Korean banks. The company defaulted on many of those loans and ended up owing the banks about half a billion dollars. In 2013, Hong-seok Park, the company’s CEO, was sentenced to 25 years in prison, in addition to hefty fines. A higher court later reduced his sentence to 15 years.

Now the banks have filed suit against Moneual’s alleged partners. The lawsuit argues that the banks loaned Moneual hundreds of millions of dollars, based on the large volume of orders made by Newegg and ASI. The computers that Moneual ordered were allegedly priced at 300 times their actual retail value, which is why the banks believe Newegg and ASI were part of the scam.

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  Case Manufacturers Have Messed Up
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-21-2017, 02:17 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies


  • Cases with solid front panels are being badly designed with less space for air to enter, resulting in lost performance and increased power draw
  • This also results in more noise
  • PSU shrouds can slightly choke open-air-cooled graphics cards if the case is small enough
  • Vertically-mounted open-air-cooled graphics cards (the graphics card being mounted with the PCIe connector facing down) suffer increased temperatures due to being next to the side of the case

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  Xbox One S With Battlefield 1 For $199
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-13-2017, 01:49 AM - Forum: Hot Deals & Bargains - No Replies


Quote:Like before, retailer Walmart is offering a special price on the Xbox One S Battlefield 1 bundle, which it currently has priced at $199.96. The bundle arrives with the console in a special Storm Grey colorway, along with a full copy of Battlefield 1. This is something that can be ordered online and shipped, or it can be picked up at a local store on the same day if available.

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  DRAMless SSDs Hit A New Low
Posted by: SteelCrysis - 10-12-2017, 01:09 AM - Forum: General Hardware - No Replies


Quote:Well, that's that. The TR200 is the pokiest SSD (aside from our baseline X25) we've yet tested on this rig. That distinction used to be held by the Trion 100, but the new guy slid under it by just a few points. Perhaps the one positive for the TR200 is that it's about as fast as the Trion 100 without even having a DRAM cache on board.

It's worth noting that our geometric mean conceals the drive's pokey write performance and fine read performance, and if your workload primarily involves reading data, the TR200 may prove tolerable. That's still not a ringing endorsement, but it may be the way the cookie crumbles for the budget systems in which this SSD might find a home.

In fairness, Toshiba made clear from the outset who the target audience is for this drive. The TR200 will feel mind-bogglingly quick to anyone who is only now upgrading from a traditional hard drive. The chief problem that I have is that Toshiba's suggested prices, while low, are well within striking distance of faster drives that frequently go on sale. But let's back that up with data, as is the Tech Report way. In the plots below, the most compelling position is toward the upper left corner, where the price per gigabyte is low and performance is high. Use the buttons to switch between views of all drives, only SATA drives, or only PCIe drives.

Quote:We'll let the performance charts do most of the talking about the TR200's performance. We can’t ignore the DRAMless market as a whole, but these products promised to deliver in two key areas; lower prices and reduced power consumption. It's obvious they don't deliver on those promises.

Removing the expense of one or two DRAM packages provides minimal cost savings. DRAM prices are up, just like NAND, but companies like Toshiba buy the components on a large scale, so they shouldn't bat an eye at the expense. The results do not justify the means, even with a $10 decrease in component expense. The only price that users care about is what they pay, and DRAMless SSDs are not cheaper than products already on the market.

Surprisingly, DRAMless SSDs do not reduce power consumption. A single picture doesn't tell a complicated story. You could argue that less power consumption in a snapshot is better, like during a test while the SSD is at idle or under heavy load, but SSDs are complex and dynamic instruments. Our battery life tests are a better measure of real-world power consumption, and the TR200 trailed the competing products.

For the most part, DRAMless SSDs have failed to deliver a single benefit to end users. Dollar for dollar we struggle to find a viable reason to even consider this product class. We have to question why companies would bring these SSDs to market given the current competition and pricing, especially the existing models that have dominated the landscape for years.

The next generation of DRAMless products promises to address many of these issues. DRAMless NVMe SSDs technically do not have DRAM, but the protocol supports using your system memory as a buffer for the physical-to-logical address map. It's a great theory, and it might even work in the mass market. Companies keep displaying the promising technology at trade shows, but they aren’t releasing samples or products. That leads us to believe it may have issues under the surface that we don’t see on the trade show floor.

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